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      Ελλάδα ή εξωτερικό;

      Σε ποιους τομείς νομίζετε είναι καλύτερη η Ελλάδα και πλεονεκτεί έναντι των χωρών της Ευρωπαικής Ένωσης

      και που πλεονεκτούν άλλες χώρες τις Ε.Ε. και ποιες είναι αυτές κατά την γνώμη σας;

      Ποιες χώρες θα επιλέγατε και γιατί;

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      Loipon, hm hm :grin

      gia mena pou megalosa sto eksoteriko, tha elega pos einai kalitera to eksoteriko :D.. Exei polla voordelen ala fisika k nadelen..(min psaxnete mpouzoukia ktlp :p )

      Tora exo dei polous pou irthane apo ellada edw gia douleia k vasika peigenoun oloi gia proti fora gia douleia se estiatoria k ta variounte grigora k feugoun.. epidi nomizoun pos einai san tin ellada edw. me ta kafedakia, eksodo, mpouzoukakia ktlp. deino kati paradigmata tora..
      An ontos kaneis to vima na pas eksoteriko prepi na exeis Dinami K Neura pou leei k ena tragoudi.. me to paramikro pou tha gini kati na min sikothis k fugeis ala na to palepsis k na to kseperasis.. fisika tha einai diskola stin arxi me tin glossa filous ktlp. ala ola erxonte me ton kairo.. Prin pas se mia xwra omos kanei plz ton kopo na matheis tin glossa giati min perimeneis pos tha exeis voithia apo kana ellina.. isos apo enan k AN.. einai diskola.
      Twra apo doulies edw stin germania einai diskola apo oti vlepw egw edw pou eimai.. Giafto sas protimo na pate se kamia megali poli :D pou mallon tha vreis k pio grigora douleia.. Opoios kanei aftin tin kinisi pantos ton/thn euxomai good luck!!

      Alla otan kateveno ellada gia diakopes k vlepw pos einai ekei ta pramata leo re gmt(srry kiola) oloi klaigonte pos den tous ftanoun ta lefta kltp. ala ta exoun ola oti thelei i psixoula tous!! Pos ginete afto? Ase pou olo i tileorasis lene pos o kosmakis pnigete sta dania pou pernoun..!! Tote protimo na min ta exo ola!!
      K emeis sto eksoteriko kanoume aman na mazepsoume kamia draxmi gia na katevoume ellada diakopoules:grin..
      A k to allo pou thimithika tora.. sthn ellada na douleveis na perneis to poli nomizo 600-800 euro einai..? Ala na exeis to spitaki sou na min eisai se nikia, alios tin evapses pou na se ftasoun?? K an den s ftanoun voithaei apo pou?:o
      Uparxei voithaei? den exo akousi akomi kati tetio gia ellada.. an nai sorry den to ksero..
      Eno sto eksoteriko px. pou ksero germania k ollandia se voithane!! afto to kalo to exoun eutixos :)

      Polla eipa pali..xixi..
      Ala pantos ksero opoios exei tin doulitsa tou einai mia xara opou k an einai..!!

      Gia ipolipes erwtisis plz pm me :D ;)
      Just kidding :)

      Grtz..!!

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      KALI EINAI I ELLADITSA REEE!!!

      Kalispera,

      Tha ithela na paraponetho gia ollous tous ellines pou nomizoun pos sto eksoteriko kai kirios stin voria europi , to epipedo zois einai poli anevasmeno kai to idio kai oi misthoi. Nomizoun episis pos ekso ola einai tsampa; ta aeroporika eisitiria , oi diakopes, i zoi genikotera...

      Kounia pou sas kounagie loipon giati stin ellada eutixos alla oxi gia poli akoma ola ta exete tsampa. San ti diladi? Enas misthotos plironei peripou 200-500 euro ton mina kai me auta ta xrimata to kratos tou parexei; Dimosia kai dorean paidia apo to nipiagogio eos to panepistimio, dorean asfalisi , sintaksiodotiko as einai kai tis peinas kai alla polla, dromous , dimosia ktiria, gimnastiria klp . Stin ollandia plironoume 40% tou misthou mas pou einai san na leme 800 euro toulaxiston kai me auta ta lefta den sou parexoun apolitos tipota... Ntavatziliki plironeis ta paketa tis EU. Signomi alla xes... gia tin EU. Gia na mpei i Roumania kai i Polonia kai ta Skopia stin EU prepei na ta pernoun apo ton kosmaki?

      Kai meta me ta ipoloipa prepei na pliroseis ta apanta. Stin ellada mexri kai o sintaksiouxos exei kalipsi gia tin eggimosini kai as min tin xreiazetai. Edo an den noisteis na tin pareis kai na pliroseis fisika , den exeis tipota. Kai meta exeis 3 paidia kai theleis na ta steileis sto Panepistimio? Tin patises! Den mporeis na pliroseis auta pou zitane. Opote ti kaneis an o pateras tou paidiou sou den einai dieuthintis? Tou les pigaine paidi mou na doulepseis kai na spoudaseis... Alla tosa polla pou zitane gia Vivlia kai Didaktra, pout.... prepei na gineis gia na ta vgaleis.

      Kala na leme pou eimaste ellines kai vriskoume kati apo tin oikogeneia kai auto to kati einai ena spiti kai voitheia kai spoudes kai oxi mono. Giati edo kai na exoune oi goneis koitane sto telos na ta poulisoun kai na ta fane.

      I Elliniki koultoura einai anantikatastati kai spania.&-

      Kali tixi se emas pou zoume okso :)

      Louiza

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      Quote Originally Posted by Louiza View Post
      Kalispera,

      Tha ithela na paraponetho gia ollous tous ellines pou nomizoun pos sto eksoteriko kai kirios stin voria europi , to epipedo zois einai poli anevasmeno kai to idio kai oi misthoi. Nomizoun episis pos ekso ola einai tsampa; ta aeroporika eisitiria , oi diakopes, i zoi genikotera...

      Kounia pou sas kounagie loipon giati stin ellada eutixos alla oxi gia poli akoma ola ta exete tsampa. San ti diladi? Enas misthotos plironei peripou 200-500 euro ton mina kai me auta ta xrimata to kratos tou parexei; Dimosia kai dorean paidia apo to nipiagogio eos to panepistimio, dorean asfalisi , sintaksiodotiko as einai kai tis peinas kai alla polla, dromous , dimosia ktiria, gimnastiria klp . Stin ollandia plironoume 40% tou misthou mas pou einai san na leme 800 euro toulaxiston kai me auta ta lefta den sou parexoun apolitos tipota... Ntavatziliki plironeis ta paketa tis EU. Signomi alla xes... gia tin EU. Gia na mpei i Roumania kai i Polonia kai ta Skopia stin EU prepei na ta pernoun apo ton kosmaki?

      Kai meta me ta ipoloipa prepei na pliroseis ta apanta. Stin ellada mexri kai o sintaksiouxos exei kalipsi gia tin eggimosini kai as min tin xreiazetai. Edo an den noisteis na tin pareis kai na pliroseis fisika , den exeis tipota. Kai meta exeis 3 paidia kai theleis na ta steileis sto Panepistimio? Tin patises! Den mporeis na pliroseis auta pou zitane. Opote ti kaneis an o pateras tou paidiou sou den einai dieuthintis? Tou les pigaine paidi mou na doulepseis kai na spoudaseis... Alla tosa polla pou zitane gia Vivlia kai Didaktra, pout.... prepei na gineis gia na ta vgaleis.

      Kala na leme pou eimaste ellines kai vriskoume kati apo tin oikogeneia kai auto to kati einai ena spiti kai voitheia kai spoudes kai oxi mono. Giati edo kai na exoune oi goneis koitane sto telos na ta poulisoun kai na ta fane.

      I Elliniki koultoura einai anantikatastati kai spania.&-

      Kali tixi se emas pou zoume okso :)

      Louiza
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      τι με λες τωρα ρε φιλαρακι?

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      K sthn ellada omos an den exeis lefta pos tha steileis to paidi sou na paei na spoudasi??..
      Distixos uparxoun polla paidia pou einai apiasta ala i gonois den mporoune na plirosoune ta eksoda gia spoudes..
      Kai pou kataligoun ta kaimena? px. se kana souper market..

      Ax..kai i ollandia k i ellada exoun voordelen en nadelen...:can'tbelieveit:

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      Gia sou toulipaki exis dikio..ego spoudazo germaniki filologia thessaloniki ke perno ptixio ton iouni..exo zisi ke zo akoma gia ta kala ti foititiki zoi..exo dei gia ta kala ti foititiki zoi,ta lefta na bgenun apo to portofoli mu gia na kalipso ta eksoda mu..kseris ti ine 800 eyro peripu to mina gia tin <<dimosia pedia>>?oi goneis mu exun sterithi tosa gia na me spoudasun gia na mi su po ke to ti exun ksodepsi gia frontistiria otan edina panelinies mono ke mono epidi sti teliki dorean pedia eine gia to tipo mono,akriboplironete ke me to parapano malista ,mono ke mono epidi to kratos sto opio zume de merimna gia tous foitites opos ke gia pola pragmata bebea..ena poli mikro pososto mono pliroi tis proypotheseis dorean stegasis se esties..exo diabasei oti i esties kaliptun mono ena 10%ton foititon eno peripou 70000 foitites figan perisi gia spudes sto eksoteriko sin tou oti poles oikogenies exun katafigi se dania gia na spudasun ta pedia tous syn toy oti i zoi pleon se mia megali poli opos i thesaloniki eine panakribi,na fantastis ipia tis proales ena galiko kafe ke to plirosa 6 eyro sti platia aristotelus!eleos pia!

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      Rea mpravo :Bravo afou exeis tin dinami akomi..

      Sou euxomai me to kalo na teliosis k euxomai tote na laskaroun ligaki ta pramata..:)

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      Νομίζω πως η άποψη της φίλης μας Λουϊζας είναι πολύ ενδιαφέρουσα , αλλά και πολύ αποκαλυπτική.:Bravo και έχει αξία γιατί παραθέτει και αναφέρει γεγονότα και καταστάσεις , που ήδη η ίδια τις έζησε και τις ζει σε ένα ξένο τόπο.

      Λέει τα πράγματα ως έχουν για το εξωτερικό , χωρίς ωραιοποιήσεις, στρογγυλοποιήσεις, μύθους και διάφορα άλλα , που εμείς εδώ στο Ελλάδα , με το να δαιμονοποιούμε τα πράγματα εδώ, και να θεοποιούμε τις συνθήκες και τις κατάστάσεις εξω, τελικά έχουμε χάσει την αίσθηση του μέτρου και δε μπορούμε να δούμε, ούτε να εκτιμήσουμε την πραγματικότητα. :can'tbelieveit:
      Το ότι κλείνει το ποστ της με το : «I Elliniki koultoura einai anantikatastati kai spania », μας λέει πολλά .:Bravo:Bravo:Bravo
      Καλή τύχη Λουϊζα, και καλη τύχη και προκοπή σ’ όλες και όλους μας, εντός και εκτός Ελλάδας. :flower :flower :flower :

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      Akouste kai thn dikh mou istoria.Gennh8ika kai megalwsa sto Velgio apo Ellhnes gonois.Sta 14 mou xronia,fugame gia thn Ellada.Ta epomena 14 xronia,pou ezhsa sthn Ellada,eixa omws taseis fughs.To paramikro stravo pou mou tuxaine h8ela na gurisw sto Velgio.Anapwlousa ta kala mou xronia kai nomiza oti den eixa kamia sxesh me tous Ellhnes.Exoun perasei 7xronia apo tote pou efuga kai zw ksana sto Velgio.Mou leipei suxna h Ellada,h kalh parea,to au8ormhto kai oxi to sthmmeno kai to programmatismeno.Mou leipoun episeis oi giortes,h kampana tou xwriou,ta xronia polla kai oi euxes(edw lene proficiat gia ola ta gogonota-ektos khdeias)Mou leipoun oi gonois mou kai h upoloiph oikogenia mou.Eutuxws exw thn poluteleia na vriskomai 3 fores to xrono sthn Ellada kai tote niw8w kati periergo,mou leipei to Velgio.Mou leipei h ka8ariothta twn dromwn,h eilhkrinia kai h tmiothta twn an8rwpwn.H eksuperethsh stis dhmosies uphresies.Tote skeftomai:h o gualos einai stravos,h emeis strava armenizoume.Kai parhgoreimai me to:opou ghs kai patris.

      Mhn leme oti 8eloume,an den ta vroume etoima,prepei na doulepsoume sklhra,opou kai na menoume.Enas Ellhnas duskola prosarmozete se kseno kratos enw o ksenos,eukola,sthn Ellada kai auto giati sthn Ellada epikratei to:ola apagoreuontai kai ola epitrepontai.

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      ... Gia na moirasto mia akoma empireia mazi sas...

      Agapitoi filoi,

      Tha ithela na stirikso gia alli mia fora tin apopsi mou sxetika me to pos antilamvanontai oi ellines tin zoi sto eksoteriko.

      Oso imoun stin ellada eixa varethei na akouo apo ta MME kai apo ton perigiro gia ta ftina eisitiria pou oi ksenoi erxontai stin ellada kai tis ftines diakopes pou einai pio ftines gia tou ksenous para gia tous Ellines.

      Xaraktiristika thelo na fero ena parageigma: Epidi exoume spiti stin Samo, gia 25 Xronia akouo gia ta poly ftina Charters pou erxontai stin Samo kai pou to kostos einai akrivotero gia Athina - Samo para gia Amsterdam - Samo.

      Eipa kai ego prin 2 oloklirous mines na kleiso ta FTHNA kata ta alla eisitiria mou kai na pao apo to Amsterdam stin Samo afou einai pio ftina apo Athina stin Samo. Epsaxna sto internet gia 2 vdomades kai ego kai o filos mou, simvouleutikame taksidiotika grafeia, rotisame anthropous pou taksideuoun stin ellada kathe xrono, gia to POY vriskoun auta ta FTHNA eisitiria pou emeis san ilithioi den eimastan ikanoi na vroume.

      Kai loipon en katakleidi na sas po pou ta vriskoun ta ftina eisitiria: STHN FANTASIA TON ELLINON. Ekei itan loipon krimena kai gia auto den mporousame na ta vroume toso kairo.

      Giati stin pragmatikotita meta apo toso spansimo vrikame ta FTHNA eisitiria pou kostizoun 1200 euro gia 2 atoma kai klisame kai 3 mines prin.

      Euxaristo ton theo pou mou anoikse ta matia kai tora meta apo tosa xronia mporo na do tin pragmatikotita kai na tin moirazomai mazi sas.

      Louiza

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